One Talk Down…
Just finished my first talk at the NYC .NET Developer’s Group. Went pretty well… I think… feedback anyone? Excellent, challenging questions. I was up against the Mets, so the group was smaller than usual, but it was still a good turnout and the people there seemed pretty into CAB/SCSF and the whole software factories thing.
Here’s the link to the resources page I mentioned in the talk. You can download the deck/code from there, plus there’s a bunch of extra links. I will try to add to this over the weekend. Be sure to check back! I’m scheduled to do the talk at least one more time (maybe more), so I plan on revamping the resources page as I get feedback.
Thank you for your time if you’re reading this post and were there. Thanks again to Bill, Steve, & Andrew for the opportunity. If you have suggestions, criticism or feedback-in-general, I’d love an email or comment!
Charles Teague wrote:
Very good talk — not just the substance, but your delivery, as well. Hope I can get to the Code Camp to see the “feature-length”version. Thanks very much for sharing your experience with us — I’ll be checking out the resources page next. Kudos on the artwork. Did you spell dependency “Depdency” on purpose? Leave it, it’s a great touch.
Posted on 20-Oct-06 at 8:05 am | Permalink
Dave wrote:
Thanks for the kind words, Charles.
I misspelled the word dependency (I usually turn spell check off in office - bad habit, i know!) Anyway, ObjectBuilder and DI are some of the things I’d like to dig into at the NJ CodeCamp if Scott & Don give me the say-so.
Hope to see you there…
Posted on 20-Oct-06 at 10:37 am | Permalink
Mark Freedman wrote:
Thanks for your presentation last night. In hindsight, we shouldn’t have been focusing so much on the Mets (save for one amazing catch), and should have spent several more hours on CAB ;)
As I mentioned last night, there is so much material in CAB that it needs a solid month of training, and a single UG presentation is definitely a tease and shortchanges the topic. Although it was good to see what’s involved, I’m afraid it may have overwhelmed some people a bit. As soon as we started to grasp one feature, you were on to the next (through no fault of your own — it is a lot to fit in).
I would prefer having multiple presentations, focusing on a topic at a time, from the guidance software on down. But I understand that is probably not best for UGs — it’s more of a training topic than in introduction and overview.
My recommendation for tweaking subsequent presentations is to spend a lot of time giving a high-level overview of the architecture without digging into code, and leave some specific code portions for Code Camps, training courses, or even your blog.
I know UG attendees love seeing code, this topic may require too much of a learning curve to dive into code so early.
I’d love to see the presentation again at another UG as it evolves.
Posted on 20-Oct-06 at 1:33 pm | Permalink
Jason von Bartheld wrote:
Great presentation in delivery as well as content.
Anyone who thought they were going to walk out of any short presentation with a strong understanding of CAB clearly never attempted to wrap their head around it. It is huge, but it is hugely powerful and elegant when you understand how to leverage it.
Thanks for tackling such a relevant/complex subject in your presentation. You did an excellent job.
Looking forward to my first code camp if this topic is covered there.
Posted on 20-Oct-06 at 6:31 pm | Permalink
Hossein Massoumi wrote:
I am late in posting my comments, but I concur w. Mark reagrding more focus on higher level stuff than code. It is quite hard to do justice to a framework like cab thru coding in a short session.
I think also some burden should be placed on the audience as well. I would’ve preferred a requirement that the audience should be comfortable w. some cab concepts before attending the session. Or, just offer a beginners CAB presentation for such ppl. I am more interested in intermediate to advanced cab work. There was at least one individual that obviously had a poor understanding of CAB and kept interrupting the flow.
I think some of the stuff that was mentioned in the presentation actually started going in the intermediate/advanced direction. For instance, the discussion about MVC (especially supervising presenter) and so forth. Another foray was when you mentioned that OB (in your opinion) was a DI ‘framework framework’. That would have made a great subtopic. For instance, do you mean that we can replace OB w. Spring.NET, or our own framework? How about some guidelines and best practice recommendations.
Also I would’ve loved to hear about your implementation of ‘State’ replacement. How about replacing ‘State’ w. EntLib Caching block and so forth.
Anyways, thank for the talk and hope we get a lot more in future.
Posted on 30-Oct-06 at 11:15 am | Permalink